VO: Do you consider yourself a better Criminal Defense Attorney than Perry Mason and Matlock? Bob: Actually they are both far superior attorneys than me. But there is a reason for that. There is another thing I heard when I started out which makes such good sense is that, “Good facts, make good lawyers.” So Perry Mason and Matlock have a scripted type of event. They have a scripted situation where there is going to be this kind of blockbuster, Earth-shattering evidence which is going to be disclosed in kind of an emotionally heated way. Where as what I do, its a lot more down to Earth. People I’m primarily cross examining in any given situation have been prepared very well by the prosecution. Some of them are borderline expert witnesses. For example, most police officers are very experienced at testifying in court. They’re not going to slip up with some kind of question where you’ve caught them off guard. You’ve got to catch them off guard in other ways. I know the prosecutors are going to prepare them because they prepare them the same way every time. I’ve learned over the years what they’re responses are going to be within a statistical percentage. You can say, well I can guess that they’re going to have told the police officer that he is going to need to clean up this little place here. Not saying they’re coaching witnesses or feeding them testimony, but they’re going to say there may be a little difficulty here. You’re going to get hammered by the, the defense here if you’re not absolutely certain about this particular area of your testimony. Because the police are kind of bending the evidence themselves, bending the narrative, kind of changing the facts around to suit their prosecution is there is generally not specific details about what happened in their story. So if I can catch them on a specific detail like, “Where was that evidence recovered from? Who recovered it? How far were they standing from you at that particular time? What type of action did the person use to throw that particular evidence?” It’s not going to match up with the other witnesses, most of the time, because there are no real details like that. They’ve been fabricated at some point.